Apocrypha Accounts? The pass-over could not be completed, until the WHOLE lamb had been eaten. This later became possible on the Day of Pentecost. And Jesus said to them. I recommend it to you. In Jewish weddings, the Groom has to go to his father, to help prepare a place for the bride (before the wedding ceremony takes place). Are all Protestants going to Hell (Catholic Dogma)? Please note the following statement by Jesus, in Matthew 26:29. Are all Protestants going to Hell (Catholic Dogma)? We are betrothed to the Messiah. It is now, that some words have been changed to make things easier to read, but the essence is still mostly there. John 19:29 mentions "a hyssop stalk," (cf. Therefore, "It is finished" (John 19:30) can't refer to the table which is continually repeated until Jesus returns (1 Cor 11:26). A few quick points that need to be considered for another time. Pp. The next step in the betrothal is ketubah. Jesus had said that He would drink wine in the kingdom of God, but as demonstrated above, you do not read of Him drinking wine before His ascension. Something important to consider, when comparing the Biblical account, with Roman Catholic tradition. But we do read, in the Book of Revelation and in Matthew 25, of a future marriage supper of the Lamb. Hmmm…this has a familiar ring for the born again believer. You are not your own, for you were bought with a price. I have also fully saved pages 148 to 452 at the moment, with 1 to 147 to change soon before ready to read. I now use wording that is much easier to read and be understood. Sometimes the father could not do this himself, but would use a marriage broker, or matchmaker. Transubstantiation vs. Consubstantiation vs. Memorialism vs Reformed? Dr. Hahn also states that Jesus only completed the Passover meal upon Calvary - and not the atonement. First, it is important to note that the Passover cups are not even mentioned in Jewish literature until Tosefta Pesahim 10:1 in 200 A.D. So, let us consider the above question, by looking at what the Bible actually says on the subject. Melchizedek and Catholic Apostolic Succession? After Jesus rose from the dead, he joined the road to Emmaus and chatted with two believers. It included seven full days of: “Complete the week of this one, and we will give you the other also in return for serving me another seven years.”. However, the major thing is, that God has revealed Himself to me very specially and awoken me to remember my trust in Him. Then in John 18:11 Jesus says, "Shall I not drink the cup that the Father gave me?" We do not need to keep eating and drinking Jesus, (literally) through the mass and Catholic Eucharist. The Scriptures teach that there was darkness over all the Land for 3 hours. Jesus surely shared the Passover cup. Matt 27:34 (esmyrnismenon oinon) and (b) sour wine (oxos) which was to prolong suffering, which Jesus partook (Matt 27:48; Mark 15:36; Luke 23:36; John 19:30). What does jesus promise. THE FOURTH CUP. Anonymous obviously does not understand the true Gospel, but instead believes the false gospel of works. Then their eyes were opened and they recognised him, and he disappeared from their sight. He is teaching an unbiblical works righteousness religion (cf. The Hebrew word translated "atonement" (kaphar) means "to cover over, pacify, or propitiate." Are we supposed to overlook all these theological inconsistencies of Dr. Hahn and just take him at his word? The apostle clearly identifies the church as God’s household, and therefore it comprises every true Christian, not only their leaders. We can see the Messiah in all of the Passover Seder. From God's perspective nothing else present or future needed to be done. Since we are dealing with typology here: (a) is Jesus, like the Roman soldier, a sinner? (6) "It is finished" is from the Greek word " tetelestai ," which means to complete or to fulfill. Here are 2 examples (of many I could have chosen) that illustrate, that the sacrifice of Jesus did not need to be repeated. It doesn’t mean He didn’t drink wine – just that it doesn’t mention it. is the Theological Editor at Third Millennium Ministries (Thirdmill). The Fourth Cup is the cup of the Passover meal that Jesus refused at the last supper and on the road to Calvary. It was not uncommon, for the father of the groom, to select his son’s bride. It is because of this symbolism that Christians observe the communion ritual today. They wrote down exactly what God had said, so that we can study what God said first hand. Antiphanes (4th century B.C.E.) Jesus did not say that that cup was only reserved for Him, because it wasn’t a literal cup. A few decades ago there was a movie that asked a similar question. To not drink the win again until hes in his fathers kingdom. It will take place during the Tribulation. The bride was to keep herself busy, sewing and preparing her wedding garments. “Even as he chose us in him before the foundation of the world, that we should be holy and blameless before him.”. Was it just a remembrance, or to point to a future and greater fulfilment? Jesus said He will not drink again, until He drinks it (with us) in Heaven. During Passover, each Jew is obligated to drink four cups of wine at specific times during each Seder (i.e. However,  the point is that we cannot state (as a fact) something, which the Bible does not state as fact. This is what actually happened in writing. Therefore, the marriage supper of the lamb also lasts 7 days. Yet, how the cup became a Passover symbol remains a mystery. That’s what we deserve. I will take you as my own people, and I will be your God. The death he died, he died to sin ONCE for all”, “…..and who have fallen away, to be brought back to repentance. There are different types of cups mentioned in the Bible. So, neither the Roman medicating or prolonging wines fulfill the passage in question. One was repentant and the other was not (Luke 23:39-43). Answer: There is only one group of people who are explicitly told in the Bible to never drink wine/alcohol, and that is the Nazirites (Numbers 6:1–4). Sing the great hallel. On the Cross Jesus said, "It is finished" (John 19:30), indicating that the work of atonement was completed. Answer: This verse is often quoted – or rather misquoted – by Catholic apologists to bolster the supposed authority and the infallibility of the Roman Catholic magisterium. He stated his intention not to drink wine again until he came into the glory of his Kingdom. (3) The Third Cup (the berakah cup): This cup follows the grace after the Meal. They were expected to drink the four cups of wine, and eat the symbolic foods, and they would all participate by Jewish law in this Passover meal. 27 And when He had taken a cup and given thanks, He gave {it} to them, saying, "Drink from it, all of you; 28 for this is My blood of the covenant, The bride had no idea at what hour or time the groom would come. I was and am still a born again Christian. Or maybe it was the third cup, that represented what Jesus had completed, but. 407 Jacob Prasch, reveals Truth about Palestine, Israel and what is really Going on, 404 Answers in Genesis. The blood sacrifice of Jesus ended the need of any other sacrifice (Heb 10:10). I go to prepare a place for you. God has now enabled me again to be able to write very strong messages. Following the third cup, Jesus stated He will not drink wine again until He reaches the Kingdom. (there are more). It is already completely accomplished. The couple would once again say a blessing over a cup of wine, (THE FOURTH CUP?) Jesus says, "I thirst." After our wedding ceremony in heaven, we will then experience the wedding feast. But only John tells us how he responded: "When Jesus had received the sour wine, he said, "It is finished"; and he bowed his head and gave up his spirit" (19:30).". Because it wasn’t completed until the death of the lamb (Jesus). This cannot be ever lost by those who trust Him, as He Himself gives us all the power to trust in Him. Such a view of Matt 26.29, 39 seems best able to explain what would otherwise be very difficult to explain—viz., that Jesus declared in v 29 that he would not drink wine again until the kingdom age. I will change the below, as I have time. As Paul wrote. Jesus does not need to be kept being sacrificed, through a separate extra Catholic act, of transubstantiation. The Matan or bridal gift, would follow this public ceremony. It’s understandable, I guess, that Christian Haggadot under-appreciate the fourth cup. Thus, symbol and reality came together at the moment the sour wine touched Jesus’ lips; the third cup “redemption by judgment and by an outstretched arm” was concluded. The Old/New Testament Church See 1 Corinthians 11:28. It was a reminder that he was thinking of her and would return to make her his wife. To clarify these things more, please checkout this shortcut link, which is an excellent audio from Arnold Frauchtenbam. So it is meaningless, to say that the pass-over was finished! We know from Scripture that John the Baptist didn’t drink wine, but it is implied that Jesus did drink wine. One of the last acts of Jesus, was to bless the cup of the New Covenant. In fact, an ancient rabbinic source, the Mishnah, instructs those celebrating to drink from the cup four times during the Passover seder (Pesahim 10:1). It is His power He gives us that we can never loose as this power is retained by Him - not us. What does the "four cups" refer too? So glorify God in your body.”. “we cannot leave, You have the words of eternal life”. Change ). This helps us have more clarity over my writings above. It looks like wine but it is not. Matt 26:20-27; Mark 14:18-23). Every gospel account, only states that He distributed the wine, to the apostles only. I will betroth you to me in righteousness and in justice, in steadfast love and in mercy.”. This verse (incidentally), was not talking about interpreting the scriptures (as the Catholics tend to falsely say). He said that He will drink that cup with us in heaven … “God’s Word is living and active, sharper than any two edged sword”. Luke 7 indicates that Jesus drank alcohol at times. Throughout their history, is a record of back-sliding, followed by repentance – but God never Totally rejected the Jewish race. and they would finalise the promises and vows. This period would then last for one year. The bride also performs a ritual immersion, symbolic of the spiritual cleansing, of the Holy Spirit. We see the Lamb of G-d, who taketh away the sins of the world, as John the Baptizer announced. But we’re going to learn that this Passover meal is different. I was in hospital asleep for a full 4 months or so and find it very hard to remember much about my life. That is never true and is a real false teaching, as I will now demonstrate. To quote Dr. Hahn, "Jesus had left unfinished the Passover liturgy in the upper room by not drinking the fourth cup. 2)The church leaders being called the pillar of the truth is a Catholic doctrine, The bible teaches that Jesus is the foundation of the church and He is the source of ALL truth, indeed He is the chief cornerstone. They need to know the truth and the truth will set them free. This is what was said: This was often the first step in a Jewish betrothal. And if I go and prepare a place for you, I will come again, and receive you to myself; that where I am, there you may be also”. Her price is a yielded life, keeping herself for Him. As we have seen, he refused some on one occasion, right before being nailed to the cross (Mark 15:23). Arnold is an experienced Jewish Bible teacher. Jesus does not need to keep being sacrificed as He was offered up ONCE only. I hope you can use my blog and read it properly. Then Jesus took the cup and blessed it, saying, “This is my blood of the new covenant, which is shed for many for the remission of sins. You said ‘WE’ are preparing our wedding garment Eph 5:27* Just to place an asterisk to note, but say no more as it isn’t what this thread is about, and you have already mentioned to get further info. The 4th cup is surely a cup of completion. However the drinking in the Kingdom, which Jesus is referring to, is either in Heaven – or in His Kingdom reign on Earth. In Mark 14:39 and also John 18:10 drinking the cup is still viewed as future, and yet Jesus says this after Gethsemane. This has been most interesting to read through; and I have no ‘but’s’ , just a very important point to consider imo; that all of this dialogue has been based upon an assumption, made by Michael, that the ‘Last Supper’ was the ‘Passover Feast’. Also at this time, there would have been singing of the Psalms and a fourth cup of wine poured and drank. Friday, 19 November 2010 When Did Jesus Drink The Fourth and Final Passover Cup? “When he was at the table with them, he took bread, gave thanks, broke it and began to give it to them. Jesus fulfilled the first 3 cups, up to redemption, but the 3rd cup is still not fully fulfilled. However, I have not yet looked at, and changed the below. “Let us rejoice and exult and give him the glory, for the marriage of the Lamb has come, and his Bride has made herself ready”, Our wedding feast will probably continue for seven years and will include, “Can the wedding guests mourn as long as the bridegroom is with them?”. The evidence, is that at that point, other things needed to happen – before things were complete. The four cups represent the four expressions of deliverance promised by God (Exod 6:6-7): (1) "I will bring out;" (2) "I will deliver;" (3) "I will redeem;" and (4) "I will take." $ 23. Jesus was crucified at 12 Noon. ISBN 978-1524758790 (Polish edition: Czwarty kielich. And if I go and prepare a place for you, I will come again and will take you to myself, that where I am you may be also.”. He said to them, “This is my blood of the covenant, which is poured out for many.”. Much of the original essence has not changed. Where does it say (in the Bible), that a cry is made at the end of the Passover, anyway? It would take a religious divorce, to nullify the contract. According to Dr. Scott Hahn, Jesus did not drink this Fourth Passover Cup with the disciples (Matt 26:26-29). The Catholic Bible? Some state that in the New Testament, we can see the development of the four cups at the Passover meal: (1) the first cup - the cup of blessing (Luke 22:17); (2) the second cup - the breaking of the bread (Luke 22:19); (3) the third cup - the cup of redemption (Luke 22:20); and (4) to the fourth cup with singing (Matt 26:23-30). See 1 Corinthians 3:11, “if I am delayed, you will know how people ought to conduct themselves in God’s household, which is the church of the living God, the pillar and foundation of the truth.”, Here is a link to an excellent full explanation regarding that verse on. This is known as the bridal payment, or bride price. This happened at the moment, we first receive Him as our Saviour. He will always restore them, as there will be a FINAL restoration. You may be surprised to know, that there is NO MYSTERY regarding the final cup, if we look only to the Bible for the answers. Jesus had already suffered for 3 hours, in spiritual and physical agony, because of taking the guilt of our sins – upon Himself. This is the whole crux of this article, and is an indication when the final cup will be drunk: “I tell you, I will not drink from this fruit of the vine from now on, until that day when I drink it new with you – in my Father’s kingdom.”, There we have it in a nutshell! ", but the fourth cup was never drunk. After denying Christ three times (Matt 26:34, 69-75; Mark 14:30, 66-72; Luke 22:34, 54-62; John 18:15-27), was Peter even qualified at the moment of the crucifixion to participate in the Lord's Table? He talks about the Jewish wedding, and its relevance to the marriage ceremony of the Bride of Christ, and the subsequent supper. I have now changed the writing/detail of all the above now. Only the husband could obtain this bill of divorcement. He said He would not drink this cup again until the wedding feast. It just says He received it, but remember Jesus’s hands were nailed so it may have touched His lips but it does not mean Jesus drank it. This should never happen, because a once and for all time acceptance of Jesus, as the Saviour, is sufficient to save us, from our sins – by what HE has done. The New Testament word "propitiation" (hilasterion) continues the Old Testament concept of blood sacrifice (Rom 3:25). “Or do you not know that your body is a temple of the Holy Spirit within you, whom you have from God? He never gave of wine to them but only the bread, at that time. What is the Immaculate Conception? (1 Cor 11:28). It also means: Jesus said, that He was the bread of Heaven, and that we should feast on Him. Well, at least you got the Jewish ceremony part kinda correct. If Jesus had drunk the fourth (or final) cup, why does He break bread, but not distribute wine? They said they were able to drink the cup of suffering that Jesus was drinking from. Page 405 Actually new Page 512 is … Hahn's gospel is another gospel - which is no gospel at all (Gal 1:6-8; cf. This verse reveals something significant. So we need to feast upon Jesus, through his Words, and we drink His blood – by being willing to suffer and die for Him. But at the consecration of the Last Supper, Jesus said: “And I say to you, I will not drink again from this fruit of the vine, until that day when I shall drink it with you new in the kingdom of my Father.” (Matthew 26:29) Jesus drank the fourth cup on the cross when the wine was lifted up to him on the cross on the hyssop branch, as described in Gospel of John. In addition, the four cups aren't mentioned in Jewish literature until 200 A.D.? We do know that by the time Jesus observed the Passover, drinking a cup during the meal was an official part of the observance. It culminates, with the groom taking his bride, to their new home. If it was true the Passover was finished, it would have been sweet (for victory) not bitter for sorrow. It would include provisions for the proposal; the groom agrees to support his wife to be, and she declares her financial status, or dowry which she pays to the groom. The Father’s House is in Heaven – not on the Earth. It is the first at the start of the Seder. It says that James was martured by Herod and John was exiled to the island of Patmos. Attach a tilde (~) to the front of a word to omit results containing that word. This is a question which the Roman Catholic Church think they have now answered…….. Unveiling the Mystery of the Last Supper and the Cross (New York: Image 2018). The Roman Catholic says this refers to the completion of the passover – not the completion of the sacrifice. Jesus was referring to His words, that would feed our souls and awaken our spirits. Jesus said: “I go to my Father (in Heaven) In my Father’s House are many rooms”. When Jesus said that we must eat His flesh, and drink His blood, he may well have been saying, we need to be full of Him. If this was the fourth cup why wasn't it guarded against the unrepentant one partaking of the sour wine? Therefore, if Hahn is to be believed, at the Cross, an unrepentant Roman soldier, whom God held morally responsible for the murder of his very Son (Acts 2:22-23; 4:27-28), was the Head of the Table? So glorify God in your body.”. In fact, Catholics have to trust in these things, because they are instructed to NEVER interpret the scriptures privately, Because of one isolated verse, written by Peter, which says. © This is illustrated in: Jesus Christ does this through the New Covenant. Jesus drank of the cup given Him by the Father, and the last words of the Passover meal were spoken from the cross: "It is finished! In Jesus case, He is referring to a cup of suffering, that He has to face. To be His true disciples, we need to be feeding upon Him, drinking His very life – so that we can serve Him properly. So, there was (1) an unregenerate head of the table, (2) three different types of wines (fruit of the vine, wine + gall, and sour wine), (3) different delivery systems (a cup, a sponge on a reed [a stock of hyssop]), (4) no disciples drinking "the fruit of the vine" at the cross, (5) one unrepentant thief partook of the sour wine, and (6) the Greek language speaks against an ongoing need of the Lord's Table for salvation. These cups are not necessarily cups of wine. So you may need to know and use this new number 512. n any case, why would Jesus have drunk bitter wine (vinegar wine) if things were now complete? The Passover prefigured the Lord's Table. Catholics point to the Jewish Passover (Pesach) tradition, to explain things. “He would not drink of the vine, until the Kingdom had been established”, “I will take you as my own people, and I will be your God”, This has still not yet fully happened for Israel, as of 2020, and. “I tell you, I will not drink from this fruit of the vine from now on until that day when I drink it new with you in my Father’s kingdom”. ‘The Kingdom’ was always understood (at least until maybe the 16th century)by God’s people as the Church, not some cosmic end times event. So Jesus did drink the 1NC cup and Gordon does drink the 2NC cup. This is not meant to offend, but to those who honor our Lord, it is blasphemy. Matt 26:20-27; Mark 14:18-23). Indeed the RC often use traditions, inspired writings of the Fathers etc  to interpret the Bible. Let's briefly examine Dr. Hahn's texts in question. The groom would return to his father’s house, but would leave his bride a gift, before his departure. “Truly, I say to you, I will not drink again of the fruit of the vine until that day when I drink it new in the kingdom of God.”. However, neither of those wine mixtures was the "fruit of the vine" (genematos tes ampelou) Jesus was referring to in Matthew 26:29. I will take you as my own people, and I will be your God. You lost your readers’ attention when you insist that 2000 years of Christian interpretation is now incorrect, but we must now submit to your own personal view comprised in 2010 in the USA. Let us compare this, with what Jesus also said, during, “In my Father’s house are many mansions: if it were not so, I would have told you. Do you agree with what the Roman Catholic teaches? By the way, when we look at Jacob, who is serving 14 years for his 2 wives – we see each 7 years referred to as, In the Book of Revelation, it talks about the 7 years (during the Tribulation) as being the, In historical Jewish weddings, the marriage supper lasts 7 days. Exod 12:22). Also the 3rd cup of suffering was surely what Jesus was referring to, when He said in the garden. The Bible DOES explain it, very clearly. This tells us that the flesh Jesus is referring to, is His words which feed our souls. What do they do at the 4th cup. You will see that they are real and true messages from God, and therefore cannot and should not be ignored. That in itself is reason enough to question whether its teachings were actually correct, because they were incorporated by men, i.e, the Catholic Fathers and not by the Bible. Instead, only the disciples drank the third cup because Jesus' blood was spilled to redeem them (and us). To use the blog well, please Press 950, 902, 600, 601, 602 to use blog best of all. It was the custom, for the groom to return to his father’s house, and usually add rooms to his father’s house – for his new family. If it were not so, would I have told you that I go to prepare a place for you? We’re going to drink a different fourth cup tonight. Isa 53:5; Rom 5:9; 2 Cor 5:21; Eph 1:7; 1 Pet 2:24; 1 John 1:7). The Bride also promises to pay her dowry. The Already and the Not Yet Change ), You are commenting using your Google account. He is busy, preparing us a place to live. This is a question which the Roman Catholic Church think they have now answered.....Have they? It was symbolic of spiritual cleansing. “no prophecy was given by private interpretation”. This is literally thousands of years after the events of both Genesis and Exodus. Jesus could not have been referring to the Passover being finished, because He was still alive. This illustrates that the final cup, will be drunk by Jesus, in Heaven. “So that he might present the church to himself in splendor, without spot or wrinkle or any such thing, that she might be holy and without blemish.”, “are your garments spotless? Eph 2:8; 2 Tim 1:9; Tit 3:5). Please now read these messages. When Did Jesus Drink The Fourth and Final Cup, of The Passover? You will undoubtedly realize why Paul calls the church, and not the Bible, “the pillar and ground” of truth. In other words, when Jesus spoke those words he was speaking of both an "accomplished fact" and an "ongoing fact"; it is finished and it will go on being finished. Jesus is the final revelation from the Father (Heb 1:1-4). Let’s get it into Bible context, and not be influenced too much by extra biblical material, which can confuse matters. Is this true? An important note now, re my writings March 2020 above, for you to read first. It is heresy (Gal 5:20; 2 Pet 2:1). To understand this fact is to understand the Gospel passages in quite a different light. It was referring to those, who were given the Word by God, to put into the inspired scriptures, correctly. But I say unto you, I will not drink henceforth of this fruit of the vine, until that day when I drink it new with you in my Father’s kingdom” … John 19:29-30 A jar full of sour wine stood there, so they put a sponge full of the sour wine [oxous] on a hyssop branch and held it to his mouth. Those who partake of it are only doing what they have been taught. Your Word is truth” (John 17:17). This is another word for the marriage contract. “man shall not live by bread alone (our physical needs) but by every word that proceeds from the mouth of God (our spiritual needs)”. So the Passover was not yet completed. Jesus already stated He wouldn’t do this, until the Kingdom had been established. But a "cup" (poterion) is not the same as a "sponge" (spongon), or a "reed" (kalamo), or a "hyssop stock" (hyssopo). "It is finished" (John 19:30). I had a serious car accident in 2017 which almost killed me. By the fourth cup, it is not meant the cup of Elijah, which was added to Passover at a later time. This was after the death and resurrection of Christ. Jesus drank from 3 cups during the Last Supper, but the last - the fourth - he did not drink from then. Matt 26:26-30 And while they were eating, Jesus took {some} bread, and after a blessing, He broke {it} and gave {it} to the disciples, and said, "Take, eat; this is My body." The Babylonian Talmud Pesachim 108b says, "The rabbis taught: after the fifth cup is poured, the Hallel (psalms of praise) are completed and the great Hallel (Psalm 118) is recited, according to Rabbi Tarfon." Did Jesus drink wine after the third cup? This means that Jesus DIED at 3pm at the exact time that the passover lamb was being consumed throughout Israel. Jesus paid the full price, all we have to do is acknowledge Him and His sacrifice for us personally and receive Him as Savior. (4) The cup that Jesus spoke of in Matthew 26:29 could not have happened upon Calvary because all the saints ("with you") were not drinking too. We have a perfect example of this in. And what that made it for us then, when we come tonight, is the cup of blessing. In essence, his view at best implies Jesus is a sinner and, in addition, he denies the atonement accomplished by Christ for his people at Calvary. This during the thousand years, or in both. “Give them eternal life, and they will never perish, and no one will snatch them out of my hand.”. “But concerning that day and hour no one knows, not even the angels of heaven, nor the Son, but the Father only.”. “Then Jesus came from Galilee to the Jordan to John, to be baptized by him.”. Jesus does not want to be partially taken, but digested in full (SPIRITUALLY) and permanently. Remember, the Church is the pillar and the ground of the truth. I will now show, what Jesus really meant by. It probably means 2 significant cups (at that stage). But, concerning the third cup, the sacrificial aspect of Passover was complete. Passover was not complete, until Jesus was resurrected and ascended. n fact Jesus (like Paul) is saying that we need to become like Him, by denying ourselves, and taking up the cross – to follow Him. He alone brings his people into their eternal Sabbath rest (Heb 3:7-4:13), because he brought them rest from sin. We’re drinking the cup of the Messiah, the cup of kingdom consummation. Jesus certainly partook of the Passover cup. They did not drink a literal cup. It would always be a surprise. Why did Jesus NOT drink the 4th cup of wine during the sacred passover meal and instead walk out before its completion? 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